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#741 Posted : Monday, 18 November 2019 7:16:25 PM(UTC)
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Sunshine Coast hail storm declared 'catastrophe' as Insurance Council estimates $40 million in damage

https://www.abc.net.au/n...undreds-of-cars/11713946

RELATED STORY: 'Look at the size of these': Storm brings cricket ball-sized hail to parts of South East Queensland
The Insurance Council of Australia has declared yesterday's hail storm on the Sunshine Coast a "catastrophe" after receiving more than 5,000 claims and a damage bill reaching $40 million.

It is expected more than half of the insurance claims will be for damaged vehicles with one car yard alone taking more than 200 cars after the powerful storm tore through the area on Sunday.

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Lychee farmer Bob Martin estimates the damage bill will be about $200,000 at his farm
The Insurance Council of Australia anticipated it would receive a few thousand claims
Clayton's Towing had 20 tow trucks retrieving damaged cars on the Bruce Highway
Clayton's Towing Service said it was a miracle no-one was injured in the deluge.

The company's car yard is now a sea of vehicles awaiting assessment from insurance companies.

At the height of the storm it had 20 tow trucks on the Bruce Highway between the Sunshine Coast and Brisbane.

"It was just total mayhem out there. When it hit, it hit hard and the cars were just destroyed so it was all hands on deck to get them off the highway," owner Mike Clayton said.

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"Some of the windscreens and the windows — the holes went right through them," he said.

"The amount of damage on the southern end of the coast is amazing and the size of the hail is not something you would see very often that's for sure."

Clayton's Towing Services worker Wayne Tuite said it was one of the busiest times he had seen.

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"A lot of people were really shaken up because of the size of the hail that came down while they were in the car and visibility was nothing. It's thankful nothing really bad happened," he said.

Mr Tuite said he expected the damage bill to be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars with the majority of cars to be write-offs.

Insurance Council of Australia spokesperson Campbell Fuller said a disaster hotline had been set up to help policy holders with their claims.

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"Typically the damage that we are seeing is smashed windscreens, dented panels for cars as well as damage to roof awnings, solar panels, and interior damage to some properties caused by overflowing gutters," Mr Fuller said.

"It's likely that more than half the claims received will end up being for motor vehicles and that will certainly put strain on the smash repair sector in south-east Queensland," Mr Fuller said.

He said the damage bill was expected to increase.

"Even just small storms can cause hundreds of millions, or even billions of dollars in damage," Mr Fuller said.

Lyndon Westbrook returned to his Palmview home from a quick trip to the shops yesterday to find glass strewn across his yard.

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His renovations have been brought to a standstill, with up to 15 windows smashed by hail.

Three of his cars are write-offs.

"Bit of a setback but that's life hey," he said.

"We've all seen hail in our lives but this wasn't hail, this was serious stone."
"Thank God everyone is safe, the rest is a bit of work and lets hope the insurance comes to the party hey."

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VIDEO: Trees uprooted from storm at Mountain Creek (ABC News)
Karawatha Drive in Mountain Creek was one of the worst-hit streets.

Jade Smith spent the entire day cleaning up around her house, but considered herself one of the lucky ones.

"Everything went everywhere, we had the whole fence go down, the BBQ went around the corner," Ms Smith said.

"Palm fronds everywhere, it was crazy, hail sideways," she said.

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$200,000 damage in 20 minutes

For the Martin family Sunday's storm came with a terrible sense of deja vu.

It was the third time this year the family's lychee farm in the Glass House Mountains has been hit.

"Some of those bundles [of hail] that were in the netting I would estimate they are around the 2 tonne mark," Bob Martin said.

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He estimated the 20-minute deluge had caused up to $200,000 in damage.

"Growing trees and farming is not something you can insure for. The premiums if you were to try and insure … would be ridiculous, it just wouldn't be worth it," Mr Martin said.

His son Ryan Martin spent Monday morning cutting the nets protecting the trees, due to the weight of hail.

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"Even the fruit left on the trees is damaged," he said

"This was looking to be our biggest year. We were hoping to get 20-25 tonne worth of lychees, obviously not now, I reckon we'll be pushing 5 tonne," he said.

He remained optimistic that next year would be better.

"We will just have to get it repaired and move on I suppose, not much you can do about it," he said.

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#742 Posted : Monday, 18 November 2019 9:05:33 PM(UTC)
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The temperature today was near average but was a little variable. Dew point and relative humidity have also been near average today. The dew point generally fell through the day before rising since later in the afternoon. Currently the dew point is stable at 13 C. Light SSE to ESE winds in the morning, SE to ENE in the afternoon and E to NE tonight.

Rainfall month to date is 14.2 mm (14.8% of the long term average). Long period rainfall totals are worsening at my location provided assuming no further rainfall occurs this month. The last 6 and 12 month rainfall totals have been in the lowest 10% of records (152 mm and 450 mm below average respectively) since last month. The 18 month rainfall total for so far in November is also in the lowest 10% of records (424 mm below average with an observed total of 1039.5 mm). At least 24 month, 36 month and 48 month rainfall is not too bad but is still below average.
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#743 Posted : Monday, 18 November 2019 9:20:55 PM(UTC)
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Great photos. It's just insane. We ducked out to bunnings at Maroochydore at 7pm tonight and energex are still out working tonight trying to repair the damage. Came through the top of Buderim/Mooloolaba hill on the way home and loads of massive trees down everywhere. It's going to take weeks to clean up the side of the roads with all the trees and branches everywhere. Haven't come across a street yet that hasn't had damage of some sort. Still cannot believe our house survived no damage.
Off to bed now, was a late one last night and spent half the day picking up branches from our yard.
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WYNNUM NORTH ( 27.4S 153.2E ) - WEATHER

DATE...19 NOV 2019 TIME....0755

CURRENT TEMPERATURE...22.9C
CURRENT HUMIDITY........72%
CURRENT DEW POINT.......18C
CURRENT WIND DIR/SPEED..SW 6Kph
CURRENT VISIBILITY......25KM
CURRENT MSL PRESSURE...1017.3pa
CURRENT CLOUD..........7/8 Sc
CURRENT WEATHER......Smoke haze
RAIN SINCE 0900 MONDAY...0.0mm

SUMMARY LAST 24 HOURS
YESTERDAY'S MAX TEMP. .......27.5C
THIS MORNING'S MIN TEMP......18.0C
PAST 24 HOURS TEMP ANOMALY..-0.20C
THIS MORNING'S GRASS MIN.....16.8C
AVERAGE 24 HOUR DEW POINT......17C
AVERAGE 24 HOUR MSLP........1017.5Hpa
MAX WIND GUST LAST 24 HOURS...E 39Kph at 1002
PAST 24 HR SIGNIFICANT WEATHER...Smoke haze.
Wyn Nth 2020-Jan165,
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#745 Posted : Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:14:43 AM(UTC)
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Ferny Grove Weather
Date: 19 Nov 2019
Time: 7:55 AM

Min Temp since 9am yesterday: 16.3 C
Max Temp since 9am yesterday: 28.3 C
Min Ground Temp: 13.8 C

Rain since 9am yesterday: 0 mm
Temperature: 23.6 C
Relative Humidity: 54 %
Dew Point: 13.8 C
MSL Pressure: 1017.1 hPa
Wind Speed: 6 kph - light breeze
Wind Direction: NNW

Present Weather: Smoke haze
Visibility: 20km to 39km - Very Good Visibility
Cloud Cover: 5/8
Ground State: Ground dry

Notes of yesterday weather - 18/11/19: Partly cloudy with cu clouds. Smoke haze. Variable temperature in the morning and afternoon. Moderately low relative humidity early in the day before returning to near average for the rest of the day. Light S to SE with some S to SW winds early in the day, ESE to SSE from the mid morning, ENE to SE from the early afternoon, ESE to NE from late afternoon became light and variable in the evening.

Today: Cool overnight. Dew point have been near average and stable so far today. Relative humidity have also been near average. Calm winds becoming light N to NW in the last hour.
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#746 Posted : Tuesday, 19 November 2019 4:34:53 PM(UTC)
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This apartment block roof was ripped off in the storm Sunday in Mooloolaba
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#747 Posted : Tuesday, 19 November 2019 7:01:03 PM(UTC)
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Beeeeloody hell. The wind must have been impressive. I wonder if there were any (semi) reliable wind recordings from any personal weather stations in the area?

The pros would be able to correct me, but could this be a microburst or a down draft to cause this damage?
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#748 Posted : Tuesday, 19 November 2019 7:29:07 PM(UTC)
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That photo Sharjay goes with this one. ( reposting so they are on the same page to compare.) Thanks for posting that one too.

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#749 Posted : Tuesday, 19 November 2019 7:48:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CantSpellNarangba Go to Quoted Post
Beeeeloody hell. The wind must have been impressive. I wonder if there were any (semi) reliable wind recordings from any personal weather stations in the area?

The pros would be able to correct me, but could this be a microburst or a down draft to cause this damage?


There was both rotational winds and straight line winds, as I was at the Mooloolaba Wharf seeking shelter and was able to watch the beast. We were hit with a small tornado. You know it is bad when the power is taken out before the storm actually hits

But the main damage would have been straight line winds from a microburst. At the Wharf we were just on the right handside of the main damage path. It just skimmed us fortunately but the roar of the wind was unbelievable.

I was watching the vortex forming over land just to the North of the Hoggs Breath Restaurant, you could see the debris rotating very quickly, leaves, cups, paper/ rubbish etc, then it brushed the side of the Restaurant and hit the water. Once it hit the water everyone was able to see the vortex/funnel skim across the marina and hit the other side of the Wharf. ( The other shops and restaurants) there was al lot of smashing and banging of things hitting the ground etc. Then it was just a white out.

If you have a look back at the last few pages you will see some photos and radar images.

It sucked out a very heavy window that was bolted shut from the upstairs part of the Hoggs Breath. It sounded like a bomb going off.

Edited by user Tuesday, 19 November 2019 7:51:04 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Got my left from rights mixed up.

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A warmer day today with a maximum of 33.6 C and was a little variable. Smoke haze increased during the afternoon. Dew point is remaining near average which fell slowly during the morning, rose in the early afternoon, before rising slower until the late afternoon and have been stable tonight. Relative humidity became moderately low today and is near average tonight. Light NW to NE winds this morning with some W to NW winds, ESE to NNE from the late morning, E to NE in the afternoon and became N to NE tonight.
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WYNNUM NORTH ( 27.4S 153.2E ) - WEATHER

DATE...20 NOV 2019 TIME....0730

CURRENT TEMPERATURE...23.7C
CURRENT HUMIDITY........82%
CURRENT DEW POINT.......21C
CURRENT WIND DIR/SPEED..NNW 8Kph
CURRENT VISIBILITY......18KM
CURRENT MSL PRESSURE...1014.5Hpa
CURRENT CLOUD..........Nil
CURRENT WEATHER......Smoke haze
RAIN SINCE 0900 TUESDAY...0.0mm

SUMMARY LAST 24 HOURS
YESTERDAY'S MAX TEMP. .......28.8C
THIS MORNING'S MIN TEMP......20.0C
PAST 24 HOURS TEMP ANOMALY..+1.35C
THIS MORNING'S GRASS MIN.....18.0C
AVERAGE 24 HOUR DEW POINT......19C
AVERAGE 24 HOUR MSLP........1013.8Hpa
MAX WIND GUST LAST 24 HOURS...N 36Kph at 1724
PAST 24 HR SIGNIFICANT WEATHER...Smoke haze.
Wyn Nth 2020-Jan165,
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#752 Posted : Wednesday, 20 November 2019 8:12:35 AM(UTC)
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Beeeeloody hell. The wind must have been impressive. I wonder if there were any (semi) reliable wind recordings from any personal weather stations in the area?

The pros would be able to correct me, but could this be a microburst or a down draft to cause this damage?


There was both rotational winds and straight line winds, as I was at the Mooloolaba Wharf seeking shelter and was able to watch the beast. We were hit with a small tornado. You know it is bad when the power is taken out before the storm actually hits

But the main damage would have been straight line winds from a microburst. At the Wharf we were just on the right handside of the main damage path. It just skimmed us fortunately but the roar of the wind was unbelievable.

I was watching the vortex forming over land just to the North of the Hoggs Breath Restaurant, you could see the debris rotating very quickly, leaves, cups, paper/ rubbish etc, then it brushed the side of the Restaurant and hit the water. Once it hit the water everyone was able to see the vortex/funnel skim across the marina and hit the other side of the Wharf. ( The other shops and restaurants) there was al lot of smashing and banging of things hitting the ground etc. Then it was just a white out.

If you have a look back at the last few pages you will see some photos and radar images.

It sucked out a very heavy window that was bolted shut from the upstairs part of the Hoggs Breath. It sounded like a bomb going off.


Great explanation.. Thank you.
An experience like that would get the Adrenalin pumping!
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#753 Posted : Wednesday, 20 November 2019 8:18:43 AM(UTC)
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Ferny Grove Weather
Date: 20 Nov 2019
Time: 7:55 AM

Min Temp since 9am yesterday: 18.2 C
Max Temp since 9am yesterday: 33.6 C
Min Ground Temp: 17.1 C
Rain since 9am yesterday: 0 mm

Temperature: 26.2 C
Relative Humidity: 61 %
Dew Point: 18.1 C
MSL Pressure: 1014 hPa
Wind Speed: 7 kph - light breeze
Wind Direction: NNE

Present Weather: Visibility reduced by smoke
Visibility: 20km to 39km - Very Good Visibility
Cloud Cover: 0/8
Ground State: Ground dry

Notes of yesterday weather - 19/11/19: Partly cloudy with cu/sc clouds in the morning, clearing to some cu clouds and sunny from later in the morning. Smoke haze and increasing in the afternoon. A cool morning and a warm day. Dew point was near average and rose in the afternoon before stabilising later in the afternoon. Moderately low relative humidity during the daytime. Light NE to NW winds in the morning with some W to NW winds, ESE to NNE from the late morning, E to NE in the afternoon and N to NE in the evening.

Today: Near average dew point was stable overnight and is now starting to rise. Relative humidity was near average this morning. Mostly light winds with some light and variable winds this morning.

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Still no rain forecast for the next 10 days or so. Sad
GFS does have some showers and storms right at the end of its extended range forecast, but it is low reliability that far out.
Waiting, waiting....
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#755 Posted : Wednesday, 20 November 2019 9:47:39 AM(UTC)
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I agree Pabloaka, the Millennium Drought was really bad. This drought is something out of a science fiction apocalyptic movie. I have never seen anything like it ever. A lot of the farmers that have been around a long time have not seen it happen like this before either.

I was just reading on the ABC News site that the fire and emergency Disaster response management team are expecting these fires to continue into the New Year and BoM are not expecting a lot of rain for a while either.

I think it is a long hot, windy summer with the occasional storm/s with some becoming extremely severe.

The interesting part will be to see what happens with the monsoon this year. I haven’t read the cyclone summary yet which I think is out.

I just had to step back from the weather and social media for a little bit and look after a few things.
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Beeeeloody hell. The wind must have been impressive. I wonder if there were any (semi) reliable wind recordings from any personal weather stations in the area?

The pros would be able to correct me, but could this be a microburst or a down draft to cause this damage?


I wish you wouldn't have said that CSN BigGrin

I had a look through the Weatherunderground web site this afternoon https://www.wunderground.com/wundermap for any private weather stations close to where that block of units was unroofed. Using Google Earth I managed to find that block which is not far from Mooloolaba Beach. It is situated at the head of a canal off Tuckers Creek and would have been exposed to any strong gusts from the SW - W.

The nearest private weather station I could find was in Palm Drive about 1.02 kms NW of the unit block. The weather station there experienced three gusts of 133.3, 132.8 and the maximum gust of 136.5 kph all were from the NNW. I don't know a great deal about weather stations so I can't say how accurate or well sited this station is, and the timing of these gusts does not corrolate very well with the observations on here. (may be the power went out or has the clock set at a differnent time?) I am just writing what I found on the net. I managed to find a couple of others but the maximum gust at those was around 80 kph and that was about 1.55 km to the south of where the unit block was, and one up off Karawatha Drive at 88 kph when obviously the power went out and everything flatlined!

I know you have had some building experience Colin, is that a metal cliplock roof?

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Tiny bit of convection's popped up near the border as what models like ACCESS-C were suggesting. A bit of pea size hail but with useless rainfall amounts and activity should remain very localised. Image via Weatherzone.
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Beeeeloody hell. The wind must have been impressive. I wonder if there were any (semi) reliable wind recordings from any personal weather stations in the area?

The pros would be able to correct me, but could this be a microburst or a down draft to cause this damage?


I wish you wouldn't have said that CSN BigGrin

I had a look through the Weatherunderground web site this afternoon https://www.wunderground.com/wundermap for any private weather stations close to where that block of units was unroofed. Using Google Earth I managed to find that block which is not far from Mooloolaba Beach. It is situated at the head of a canal off Tuckers Creek and would have been exposed to any strong gusts from the SW - W.

The nearest private weather station I could find was in Palm Drive about 1.02 kms NW of the unit block. The weather station there experienced three gusts of 133.3, 132.8 and the maximum gust of 136.5 kph all were from the NNW. I don't know a great deal about weather stations so I can't say how accurate or well sited this station is, and the timing of these gusts does not corrolate very well with the observations on here. (may be the power went out or has the clock set at a differnent time?) I am just writing what I found on the net. I managed to find a couple of others but the maximum gust at those was around 80 kph and that was about 1.55 km to the south of where the unit block was, and one up off Karawatha Drive at 88 kph when obviously the power went out and everything flatlined!

I know you have had some building experience Colin, is that a metal cliplock roof?

Greg



That is awesome Greg. Those gust could well and truly be right or even stronger due to the wind rating that the building code would have required back then. I had a look at the closest BoM reading at the airport North of Mooloolaba and it peaked at 86km/h if I remember and it missed the strongest part of the storm.

As for the roof, yes it was a clip lock roof. Sharjay also mentioned a house had become unstable not far from there and the residents had to be evacuated, so I am not sure if it was on stilts or poor tie down. That takes a lot of force to do that either way.

Cheers and great fact finding skills there Greg. Love it.

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A hot day with a maximum temperature of 35.1 C. The temperature have been near stationary for the 2 hours at 25 C. Smoke haze again today increasing in the afternoon. Dew point have remained near average which fell through the morning, rose during the middle of the day, fell slowly in the afternoon and mostly stable tonight. Moderately low relative humidity during today and near average tonight. Light N to ENE winds in the morning, becoming E to ESE from mid morning, ESE to ENE in the late morning and E to NE since the afternoon.

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Pretty strong winds blowing down here at BR. from the ENE.
As the dry continue these winds are going to play havoc with the fires. 4 states are now on fire. SA, Vic, NSW
and QLD. I believe another 2 houses were lost last night at Ravensbourne.

Dam levels are now down to 60% around Brisbane, I honestly believe we should be on restrictions and not wait for that 50% mark to be hit. My real worry is when this drought breaks, deep down I have a dreadful feeling. I hope I am soooo wrong I really do. We need slow rain of 10-15mm a day for a week then slowly build. Any massive downpours or sustained rain rates of 50-100mm/ hour and we would have walls of water everywhere. The ground is just concrete under a layer of dust.

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